tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post2323857037764870817..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: Gateway to What?Baca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-84582311467507800472012-07-24T05:44:19.869-04:002012-07-24T05:44:19.869-04:00Obviously field owners would be against the Splatm...Obviously field owners would be against the Splatmaster.<br /><br />Just like car dealers will react, if Ford starts selling cheap cars directly to consumers.<br /><br />I understand it is thought up as a "gateway" to real paintball.... but one has to wonder what the incentive to go to a real field is, if you can just run around doing it in your neighbourhood, at way lower cost?<br /><br />How many field owners will actually turn away from Kee and choose another supplier, as a reaction to their supplier actively competing with them?Nick Brockdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058065730404049908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-83761106235268798302012-07-23T18:44:05.793-04:002012-07-23T18:44:05.793-04:00Guns don't kill paintball. Paintball Industry ...Guns don't kill paintball. Paintball Industry kills paintball!!!! :DMarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-34357296260997825332012-07-23T16:45:26.022-04:002012-07-23T16:45:26.022-04:00Reiner nailed it.Reiner nailed it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-69500311803987386092012-07-23T14:45:10.877-04:002012-07-23T14:45:10.877-04:00Missy Q, if that's the plan, me thinks they sh...Missy Q, if that's the plan, me thinks they should revise it. There is a big market for low impact paintball at rental fields. This is still paintball and I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want a bunch of 9 and 10 year olds running around in my backyard shooting paint and anything and everything they see. Paintball stains can devalue a house very quickly. Paint, if not washed off immediately will also take the finish off cars. Not everyone is going to have an acre of woods or field in their backyard. If people think they can play with these in their backyards in an urban setting, Splatmasters are going to get a bad reputation real quick and that reputation won't help what we now know as paintball with the general public.<br /><br />So although I agree that there is a big market to just flog these at the big box stores, there is also a big market to utilize the technology and run organized groups in a facility designed for the activity. But lets face it, running rental groups with markers that don't look like they will hold up as well as a Super-soaker just isn't going to cut it.Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-68165251298355373192012-07-23T13:36:50.402-04:002012-07-23T13:36:50.402-04:00Reiner, the plan, as I understand it, is not to do...Reiner, the plan, as I understand it, is not to do anything else other than this cheap splatmaster entry - ie. no upgrades, nothing fancier than a splatmaster. At the point people buy that and enjoy it, the theory is that they will jump into regular paintball, and that this Splatmaster game is indeed supposed to be a gateway into 68cal reg-ball.<br />Whether or not people will make that step, a different step, or no step at all is open for discussion. <br />Too early to tell if this is a good thing or not and at present I would prefer that KEE concentrate in 'having their product in stock' rather than focusing efforts elsewhere. That said, I applaud the fact that they are making efforts to stimulate grass-roots play.Missy Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-55688587958097999342012-07-23T12:41:41.527-04:002012-07-23T12:41:41.527-04:00KEE/JT's disassociation with paintball is inte...KEE/JT's disassociation with paintball is interesting. In their eyes, dose paintball have a bad rep, that they would want to separate themselves from it? I mean, it is obviously paintball. Slower, smaller, lighter balls, but they are still paintballs.<br /><br />From a business standpoint, I'm actually mildly interested in the technology. But they are going to have to come up with something a little better than what looks like something you would buy at your local Dollar Store. I assume that should this take off at all, that won't be too far behind.<br /><br />I know field owners that have been using 50 cal at lower velocities for their younger groups actually like it, despite all the previous naysayers. So in my opinion, 50 cal has a legitimate place in the market place, it's just a different market, not the tourney or serious rec ball market.<br /><br />Paintball lite, with actual marking capabilities will be a little more serious competition for airsoft than regualr paintball technology. With the capability of carrying larger volumes in the marker and similar volumes taking up less space, and no air source needed, guns more similar to what we see in airsoft will be possible. As much as many "paintballer" may not like those markers, there is still a huge demand for it within the general population.Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-75605876595247007312012-07-23T12:33:02.718-04:002012-07-23T12:33:02.718-04:00Watch the video of this guy in court:
http://www....Watch the video of this guy in court:<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177736/James-Holmes-Dark-Knight-massacre-gunman-appears-court-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty.html<br /><br />Considering he's been in lock-up since friday, he sure looks drugged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-47926303534222347292012-07-23T11:52:00.742-04:002012-07-23T11:52:00.742-04:00Anony who palms his face epically,
Being a paintb...Anony who palms his face epically, <br />Being a paintball player, you'd think that it wouldn't be too surprising to assuming that if someone is shooting at you, you have to take cover (thus saving lives and buying others time).<br /><br />Since the guy didn't go out in a blaze of glory with the cops, you could even further assume that he didn't want to die and if was confronted might very well have fled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-82580132384051623712012-07-23T11:24:17.506-04:002012-07-23T11:24:17.506-04:00The small ball is relevant only in that it can act...The small ball is relevant only in that it can actually be fired without gas and acheive something resembling a viable velocity. They basically found a way to use it that might actually pan out, provided they can get the paint to break on impact and not in the gun.<br /><br />For me the interest is that they don't use the word paintball. I gather they want to introduce this to mass market as something that's 'not paintball', and I don't know if thats a good thing or not.Missy Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-65228756066842022142012-07-23T11:10:43.282-04:002012-07-23T11:10:43.282-04:00Terrible timing on this reintro.
Teaching kids ...Terrible timing on this reintro. <br /><br />Teaching kids to shoot at each other is not going to fly well right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-51577359073880483322012-07-23T10:28:14.074-04:002012-07-23T10:28:14.074-04:00Missy
I didn't miss any of that. :) I even ref...Missy<br />I didn't miss any of that. :) I even referenced the likelihood SplatMaster might function as a "gateway" to Airsoft as to paintball. My interest is the reintro of small ball but I see I am alone.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-16839572689936339122012-07-23T10:06:20.921-04:002012-07-23T10:06:20.921-04:00I think you're missing something on the Splatm...I think you're missing something on the Splatmaster deal. My intel suggests that these splatmasters do not require C02 powerlets like the old ones, and that with the smaller paintball they are able to use the energy from the spring to whack the ball, airsoft style, at the opponent. This is why it's a shoe-in for the mass-market. The mass-market stores prefer airsoft because they don't want to fill tanks or be responsible for decanting high-pressure gasses or the training involved to have their staff perform these actions. For me, that is the step forward, and if it works, it will definitely be more accessible. The fact that they are not calling it 'paintball' is deliberate. They want separation. I am reserving judgement as at the very least this idea does show some promise.<br /><br />As for all the gun-nuts. Seems to me the problem is the people, not the guns. If you took all the guns away there would still be plenty of fucked-up yanks who desperately want to get famous the easy way. Get rid of guns and it won't make a difference. If they refused to show this shit on TV and didn't do an in-depth expose on the gunman, they might have more preventative success.Missy Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-67478111617253117932012-07-23T09:26:51.795-04:002012-07-23T09:26:51.795-04:00I'd rather the guy stay alive so that he can b...I'd rather the guy stay alive so that he can be diagnosed and questioned for as long as possible.<br /><br />While it is natural to want revenge, I think there is more value in having this guy go through extensive study to determine what is going on upstairs.<br /><br />Latest news was he was popping vicodin prior to the rampage. He received a grant for his PhD in neuroscience studies so obviously he had enough stability in the past few years to earn a Masters (unless he was doing one of those dual Masters/PhD progs - unlikely).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-83893938155660180212012-07-23T02:14:49.373-04:002012-07-23T02:14:49.373-04:00"The guy had months to plan this, so not sure..."The guy had months to plan this, so not sure if the guy can be considered "insane"."<br /><br />People can be insane for more than a few months, can't they? Most insane people are. This guy was definitely not "normal". Hopefully they will NOT find him insane and release him into general population in prison.Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-49504744815548052762012-07-23T00:13:24.148-04:002012-07-23T00:13:24.148-04:00And to all the ITGs who claim they would have take...And to all the ITGs who claim they would have taken this guy out with a head-shot using their trust 1911 .45... Epic face palm.<br /><br />Confusing situation and room filled with people in terror of their lives and you are gonna line up that perfect shot with a sidearm (which you probably loaded with hollow points for maximum stopping power). Right.<br /><br />On the other hand let's assume a psycho looking do maximum damage had no access to an "assault weapon". Derp, he just chains the exit doors with a bike lock and proceeds to dump poison gas or burn the place down with everyone trapped inside.<br /><br />The guy had months to plan this, so not sure if the guy can be considered "insane". The story we have so far is starting to stink bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-3710566999279235852012-07-22T21:53:16.292-04:002012-07-22T21:53:16.292-04:00I trust you to make a decision for yourself and I ...I trust you to make a decision for yourself and I believe in gun ownership to protect my family and property as well as that of my neighbors. If I'm ever carrying while a psycho starts shooting you can thank me later for being willing to step into the fray and protect others rather than hiding and hoping someone else rises to the occasion. Some of us feel an obligation to protect and defend ourselves and especially others. If you don't, that's fine. But do t assume we should all be equally helpless so you can feel safer with your head in the sand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-15579258538536659042012-07-22T19:50:26.822-04:002012-07-22T19:50:26.822-04:00Did not expect this thread's comments to end u...Did not expect this thread's comments to end up here but that's okay. We have a little time before the nefarious forces behind Big Paintball try to ram small ball down our collective throats--again.<br /><br />Paintball and the Aurora shooting. I think it's a small vauguely sinister detail thrown into the coverage by an element of agenda media 'cus they don't really understand--men in masks!--and in the long term nobody will make a paintball/lunatic killer association. (Tho I doubt he's a lunatic killer in fact. I suspect he's as sane as the next guy even if they make him out to be nuts--assuming they can't paint him as some sorta homegrown terrorist.)<br /><br />Re: guns. Don't like 'em personally. Never owned one, don't want one but am seriously considering reluctant responsible gun ownership. Pro second amendment. There are literally thousands of gun laws on the books. More than can be (or are) enforced in fact.<br />"Assault weapons" language is largely meaningless and relies on an ignorant public to engender an emotional response from people.<br />That said it would be nice if the streets weren't full of dangerous and illegal guns but denying half my relatives and Joe Rotary Club the right to responsibly own and collect guns won't change anything. Although if our government didn't sell guns to drug cartels it might be a good start.<br /><br />And for the we-must-stop-the-killing crowd who insist on advocating gun bans for the greater good I would direct you to the scraps of information available on officer-involved shootings. Nobody, including the FBI keep national stats--though the FBI keeps stats on "justifiable homicides" (an average nationwide of 400 a year the last two years) and almost everything else. It is possible to track down some of the data. For example in the greater Houston area in 2010 & 2011 Houston police and county sheriffs shot 94 people killing 32 of them. The circumstances makes for some interesting reading.<br /><br />Finally I will agree with the Anon who suggested the real root of the problem is with the kind of people we have become. Nihilism is the flavor of the day in the post-civiliation West and it's small wonder that when you teach your children the world is meaningless and random and corrupt that some believe it and act on it. The real wonder is that more haven't.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-55481035167724181482012-07-22T18:59:08.809-04:002012-07-22T18:59:08.809-04:00To Pro AR15 Anon-
You're saying I should be a...To Pro AR15 Anon-<br /><br />You're saying I should be allowed an AR15 to protect myself from others with AR15's but that I should be more trusting of my neighbor?<br /><br />To be honest I think it's dumb you come in here on a tirade while trying to reinforce your own ideas. The internet is full of people like you right now. I just want to hear Baca's opinions and eat my freedom fries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-8505419707912643552012-07-22T18:47:41.315-04:002012-07-22T18:47:41.315-04:00Strangely enough this is all biblical in nature:
...Strangely enough this is all biblical in nature:<br /><br />More laws and rules do not make you happier or safer. In fact they do just the opposite - they make you slaves to those who create the laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-40905424184654702822012-07-22T16:44:00.386-04:002012-07-22T16:44:00.386-04:00Anyone else have a strange feeling we may see the ...Anyone else have a strange feeling we may see the Werewolves show up at World Cup?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-18024416373904367932012-07-22T15:29:05.991-04:002012-07-22T15:29:05.991-04:00Nick,
An AR-15 looks scary, but it's a lot les...Nick,<br />An AR-15 looks scary, but it's a lot less powerful than plenty of hunting rifles. <br /><br />So it seems like what you're saying is to be civilized we should ban high capacity magazines? (so he just has to carry more extras tapped together?)<br /><br />No, let's face it, the key to a good and honorable society starts with individuals and families respecting one another, loving one another, and honoring the rule of law.<br /><br />It does not start with passing laws that pretend to prevent something while merely restricting freedom.<br /><br />The USA, unfortunately for those who share your viewpoint, has enshrined in its constitution that the people's right to bear arms is actually -necessary- for security and freedom.<br /><br />Personally, I think hunting for sport is quite abominable, but I won't deny anyone else that right. I understand its purposes for the wise management of animal populations as well as food production, and I think it's good in that respect, but just because I abhor the thought of killing an animal for the mere sport of it, doesn't mean I want to ban it.<br /><br />The ultimate difference from me and you on gun issues would appear to be that I trust my neighbors as well as those who I don't know with my life. Those who lack trust in others seek to regulate them into good behavior. <br /><br />By the way, as a plethora of incidents have proven, the military or police can be just as reckless and violent, if not more so, with their firearms. <br /><br />More to the point, the questions and the logic you are using and applying to certain segments of gun owners can just as easily if not MORE SO apply to the sport of paintball by "any civilized society".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-71397675096904996522012-07-22T15:20:39.240-04:002012-07-22T15:20:39.240-04:00I'm wondering...
...do you think it should be...I'm wondering...<br /><br />...do you think it should be a "right" to purchase and own assault weapons?<br /><br />I mean, I totally get why people have guns for hunting, I enjoy hunting myself.<br /><br />But, why on earth would a society want random citizens to own AR-15s and Glocks?<br /><br />To my mind, any civilized society should limit personal gun ownership, so that automatic and semiautomatic weapons were reserved for armed forces and law enforcement.<br /><br />Anything else is asking for trouble.Nick Brockdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058065730404049908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-92144609454653776442012-07-22T11:49:04.623-04:002012-07-22T11:49:04.623-04:00DERDER Soldiers of Misfortune poster on his wall.....DERDER Soldiers of Misfortune poster on his wall... why that's as incriminating as the fact that he ordered ammo in bulk online in "in the last 60 days". Hopefully we can all see these smear tactics by the police and press and call them what they are - perfectly legal actions that tens of thousands do.<br /><br />Its outrageous the focus is on him buying ammo and guns and everyone looks the other way at the fact that the crime was killing people. If you want to blame online ammo sales or derder DVDs you'd probably be better off blaming Batman movies... and reveal the depth of your stupidity in the process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-63203231530149518472012-07-22T05:55:23.972-04:002012-07-22T05:55:23.972-04:00Story breaking that the Colorado shooter had some ...Story breaking that the Colorado shooter had some association with paintball. Interested in your comments Baca. I see dark skies aheadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-79085676833082354662012-07-21T14:42:47.491-04:002012-07-21T14:42:47.491-04:00I bet the 1st anon dude voted for Obama. And proba...I bet the 1st anon dude voted for Obama. And probably will again.<br /><br />Learn to make your own way and stop expecting others to do it for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com