tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post2331540626263371614..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: 2012 NPPL Championships: Final ThoughtsBaca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-66279336270953667012012-10-14T20:11:02.431-04:002012-10-14T20:11:02.431-04:00They advanced 8 teams all great because there were...They advanced 8 teams all great because there were to prelim brackets. Vegas has 3 prelim brackets and the rules say you take 6. Legend should not have played Sunday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-52211123740287288232012-10-13T18:38:00.400-04:002012-10-13T18:38:00.400-04:00The NPPL advanced 8 teams to Sunday all year.The NPPL advanced 8 teams to Sunday all year.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-72930857755859177992012-10-12T20:46:35.673-04:002012-10-12T20:46:35.673-04:00Legend shouldn't have been in the finals. Leg...Legend shouldn't have been in the finals. Legend shouldn't even have played on Sunday. NPPL rule book says only 6 teams should have advanced and they fucked it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-13717366777199686012012-10-12T19:06:32.028-04:002012-10-12T19:06:32.028-04:00Greenspan seemed to have some motivational words o...Greenspan seemed to have some motivational words on Twitter after today's play.<br /><br />:Fu#k penalties and these shit euro refs from the #millenniumseries 14 penalties in 2 matches is insane! There goes our title! Thnks europe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-52908716402889040432012-10-12T14:11:29.809-04:002012-10-12T14:11:29.809-04:00Ken
Different situations. Most of the MS nonsense ...Ken<br />Different situations. Most of the MS nonsense was rooted in teaching the Americans a lesson. It's the sort of thing they do to each other over there and while many are currently in a state of denial about the influence of nationalism in their officiating, it is what it is. Maybe the new conduct rule book for refs will help--but I doubt it.<br />The NPPL is some incompetence and some bias. Which is nothing new. To keep it impersonal think back to the Dynasty--Joy final a few years ago. The Euros thought it was anti-Joy bias but what it really was was pro-Dynasty bias. Same result but different motives.<br /><br />No need to become a sycophant. And it may not make any difference. I'm not making this decision based on an expectation of better reffing but because I owe my team their best opportunity to succeed.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-12916112286458133762012-10-12T14:03:20.227-04:002012-10-12T14:03:20.227-04:00I echo the already stated regrets that you won’t b...<i>I echo the already stated regrets that you won’t be offering honest and sometimes funny opinions on current league operations. It’s a shame because that is always interesting and informative. I personally always look to my critics to point out my failings at work, paintball and in life. It’s helped me get better. It’s tough to get truly honest appraisals. But it’s completely understandable since it’s not just you that is affected but also the team. Bummer!</i><br /><br />Well said ChuckF!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-88121399974932245452012-10-12T13:11:44.678-04:002012-10-12T13:11:44.678-04:00I'm curious Baca, when will "To get a f...I'm curious Baca, when will "To get a fare shake, I have to stop criticizing the league" turn to "To get a fare shake, I have to praise the league". How far down the slope do you expect to slip? <br /><br />Is there a point when you decide that it's not worth attending if the league will not act professionally?<br /><br />Off topic: I was too busy too catch you in Vegas, which is a shame as I really wanted to hear about the tennis incident. I'll have to try better in HB.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-5962683791854712662012-10-12T13:04:12.899-04:002012-10-12T13:04:12.899-04:00Bring back Carthy amd his silly visor Bring back Carthy amd his silly visor Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-39760801113660417922012-10-12T11:30:40.808-04:002012-10-12T11:30:40.808-04:00Anon 9:34
The point isn't what ultimately happ...Anon 9:34<br />The point isn't what ultimately happened. Hindsight is 20/20. Nor is what you claim you'd prefer relevant. Given that a team with a similar roster playing as "Aftershock: last year won Vegas and Heat has been strong this year plainly influenced how the brackets were constructed and they were constructed to favor Impact & XSV.<br /><br />Anon 9:18<br />Really? I will grant you Joey's interview revealed strong opinions but I have a hard time seeing where either I or the rest of team have done the same. But whatever.<br /><br />Anytime I believed the refs impacted our ultimate results I've said so--did I say that about Vegas? I did not. A ref cost us a prelim match but we still played Sunday. We just didn't play well enough. That of course has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality or consistency of the officiating.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-38519893889062560282012-10-12T11:17:50.731-04:002012-10-12T11:17:50.731-04:00Yep Dynasty is old and rotting Joey..Yep Dynasty is old and rotting Joey..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-92060228678128156882012-10-12T10:38:30.081-04:002012-10-12T10:38:30.081-04:00I'm surprised that people would have a problem...I'm surprised that people would have a problem with you for writing your views. I don't always agree with them either, but you always make a case and the case usually has merits. <br />I'm not surprised that Joey's interview has changed peoples perception of the team though. It changed mine, and not for the better. That guy should be kept waaaaay in the background.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-82854332835818929832012-10-12T09:34:21.170-04:002012-10-12T09:34:21.170-04:00Re: heat and contact bracketing...
Who cares, they...Re: heat and contact bracketing...<br />Who cares, they both were 0-4.. If anything I'd want the harder prelim bracket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-13906953296160756142012-10-12T09:18:53.842-04:002012-10-12T09:18:53.842-04:00I think you, Joey, and your team talk more shit on...I think you, Joey, and your team talk more shit online than all the other franchise teams put together. I rarely disagree with your views but those views, Joey's interview, and similar statements are definatly a liability. Should that have affected Vegas... ?No <br /><br />But I'm sure it did... ESP after the JRab temper tantrum at HB this year. They see damage doesn't respect the league, it's refs, and it's employees. It was better to see Dynasty win.. Or XSV or legend etc. For the league and paintball fans. <br /><br />I mean.. "Damage victory speech: we are the best team in the world... Yalls league and refs are shit... If we would have lost it would have been play on and bonus balls for everyone and a nasty write up on bacablog!"<br /><br />TBD needs to get over themselves, show some composure, and show some professionalism. You guys went from classiest team in paintball 2009 to arrogant and opinionated 2012.<br /><br />I hope Heat or Dynasty or the Russians smash you at cup. Then it will be the PSPs fault because you are the best team in paintball. I watched you guys ever since Fierce was rolling. Slow your role, stop talking shit, fire Joey amd Ramsi, and play good paintball....<br /><br />For now.. Karma is a bitch<br /><br />If it was the refs who impeded on your success ... What was heats excuse?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-47329343017313432072012-10-12T04:52:02.130-04:002012-10-12T04:52:02.130-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.DanC.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00810113586212188629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-26888635728105744792012-10-12T04:52:01.265-04:002012-10-12T04:52:01.265-04:00anon 4:17
Doesn't that become a self fulfillin...anon 4:17<br />Doesn't that become a self fulfilling scenario... a downward spiral? Ref makes 50/50 call. then complaint. then retribution calls at events. more complaints. etc etc?<br />DanC.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00810113586212188629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-74003414352085438492012-10-11T18:10:15.235-04:002012-10-11T18:10:15.235-04:00Baca - has good ol boy Lane threatened to show up ...Baca - has good ol boy Lane threatened to show up at your door and beat you down? Is that what your saying?<br />You could take him by simply overwhelming him with size. But I have heard he has fancy footwork and a good jab. And he carries a knife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-80802059401078022312012-10-11T17:35:39.432-04:002012-10-11T17:35:39.432-04:00Isn't the whole point that the refs can't ...Isn't the whole point that the refs can't tell what the call is SUPPOSED to be in the first place?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-42891490338610982352012-10-11T16:17:16.023-04:002012-10-11T16:17:16.023-04:00I have to wonder whether, if I was a ref in the NP...I have to wonder whether, if I was a ref in the NPPL, and regularly read this blog, whether I too would rule in favor of the opposing team on any 50/50 or even 60/40 calls involving Damage.<br />I would like to think 'no' of course, because it's inexcusable given the job description, but the truth may be different...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-16277509593495934702012-10-11T15:02:58.460-04:002012-10-11T15:02:58.460-04:00There's another option - just don't play N...There's another option - just don't play NPPL. It's interfering with your practices for the real paintball league anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-72359259308217739762012-10-11T14:24:36.440-04:002012-10-11T14:24:36.440-04:0010:09 Anon
I'm not gone just yet but it will n...10:09 Anon<br />I'm not gone just yet but it will narrow the scope of the commentary.<br /><br />10:38 Anon<br />The issue is less about Tony than the refs themselves. It would be interesting to see an event by event breakdown of who the refs on the field were and where they came from.<br />I can't speak to the other fields but the two worst officiated events this year were HB & Vegas. Chicago was very ticky-tack but more consistent.<br />In years past the primary issue was political. There were some very good refs working the NPPL but they were mostly relegated to outside fields because they weren't friends of Head Ref Perez.<br /><br />2:32 Anon<br />True enough<br /><br />Reiner<br />Not so fast. I have no reason to believe TBD is returning to Euroland any time soon but there are some other options.<br /><br />EC Lil Baller [ :) ]<br />Good call<br /><br />ChuckF<br />It's the potential team backlash that matters. They can't do anything to me and I've been threatened with lawsuits and physical violence before--of course that was of the good ol' boy variety--we know where you live and we could show up on your doorstep one day.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-2442484342076311022012-10-11T14:19:09.419-04:002012-10-11T14:19:09.419-04:00what?!?! you have haters?!?!
but seriously, you a...what?!?! you have haters?!?!<br /><br />but seriously, you are doing a great job. I've watched your "likes" grow from 300 to just over 1,000 now. You are doing a lot of things right. Just a shame that the overall larger picture is lost on so many people.dan.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-6412673104961796412012-10-11T13:20:06.448-04:002012-10-11T13:20:06.448-04:00I echo the already stated regrets that you won’t b...I echo the already stated regrets that you won’t be offering honest and sometimes funny opinions on current league operations. It’s a shame because that is always interesting and informative. I personally always look to my critics to point out my failings at work, paintball and in life. It’s helped me get better. It’s tough to get truly honest appraisals. But it’s completely understandable since it’s not just you that is affected but also the team. Bummer!ChuckFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-48359758683747862912012-10-11T10:17:47.459-04:002012-10-11T10:17:47.459-04:00As an admitted 'noob' to tourny paintball ...As an admitted 'noob' to tourny paintball I noticed a difference in officiating in the NPPL Webcast from what I've seen on the PSP webcast and in person. It seemed a lot more hits and wipes were let slide in this last event. I also saw many more refs run up to players and pull them away for what were more than pack hits than ever before. <br /><br />It seems in the PSP if a ref has to run up to you and point out your hit, you're getting a penalty. That was not what I saw on the webcast this past weekend nor from HB. Perhaps having 7 players per side on the field makes things trickier but it definitely seemed like you could play on more in the NPPL. The announcers even alluded to amount of loader hit wipes people were getting away with.<br /><br />In sum, NPPL's reffing hasn't give me the confidence to spend my hard-earned dollars at their events. Hence why my team played PSP MAO rather than NPPL DC.EC Lil Ballernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-20538592990853108492012-10-11T09:18:01.516-04:002012-10-11T09:18:01.516-04:00It’s always difficult when you are wearing two hat...It’s always difficult when you are wearing two hats.<br /><br />If you are not going to aggressively critical of leagues your team is affiliated with, I’m feeling sorry for Millenium already.<br />Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-15801254433748715292012-10-11T02:32:42.144-04:002012-10-11T02:32:42.144-04:00The addition of Tony couldn't have made it any...The addition of Tony couldn't have made it any worse, but hasn't made it any better.<br /><br />But it's hard to tell when the officials are intentionally screwing you or you are just a victim of the 50% of the time a particularly shitty call (of which NPPL officials appear to make many) just happens to not go your way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com