tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post4315727461794313874..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: The raehl SolutionBaca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-14548877561135365902012-01-30T11:03:53.962-05:002012-01-30T11:03:53.962-05:00Paintball is special, in the sense that anyone can...Paintball is special, in the sense that anyone can compete at nationals, irrespective of their skill.<br /><br />Personally, I like that community feeling and how paintball is all inclusive.<br /><br />However, in terms of being a sport, it might be better if - at national level - you had to qualify, through locals and regionals?<br /><br />Quite possibly, the best thing for paintball would be a mix:<br /><br />A pro division with relegation to SemiPro<br /><br />SemiPro with relegation to Div. 1 and promotion to Pro<br /><br />Div. 1 which you qualify to via regionals (which also means last years relegated semi-pros, would need to go back to their regional qualifier the next season)<br /><br />Regionals you qualify to locally, or by being relegated nationally.<br /><br />- I know the whole concept of promotion and relegation is alien to most american sports.... but as long as our sport is not financed well enough to have franchises and fully paid professionals playing - you need some organised way of teams being able to get themselves to the Pro level.<br /><br />At least if you subscribe to changing the way it is done today, where anyone can call themselves pro, if they are prepared to pay the Pro entry fee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-6042107576643020982012-01-29T23:53:29.279-05:002012-01-29T23:53:29.279-05:00Last Anon,
Yes & no. raehl's prime directi...Last Anon,<br />Yes & no. raehl's prime directive is reduced, fixed cost by restricting paint to make competitive paintball potentially more appealing.<br />Nick countered that reduced ROF was a better overall solution and could/would achieve similar results.<br />While I don't object to restricted paint in introductory formats ROF changes is better in terms of maintaining the character of the game as it is currently played.<br />And my interest is in not screwing the game up in the name of "fixing" it.<br /><br />Regarding your questions I'm not gonna much help. I think the best way for the lower divisions to compete for national titles is in regional series where they earn the right to compete in a national title event like World Cup. At the same time I remember the days of paying a couple thousand for 6 prelim games and $80-$100 for a case of paint with events lasting days longer than they do today. In general the top leagues are worlds better than they were. But you're right that things like meaningless ID cards (NPPL, MS) are simply adjunct revenue streams. Still, it's hard for me to get too worked up about it. And of course anything short of free is too expensive for somebody but I don't see any way around that.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-43099318706880650522012-01-29T14:01:40.738-05:002012-01-29T14:01:40.738-05:00Is this discussion related to lower costs for the ...Is this discussion related to lower costs for the players? <br />If so, I would like to hear comments and perspective on the other costs that prevent many teams from playing the PSP and other major events. <br /><br />How about a discussion on reducing entry fee's? Prize packages, ID cards? etc. The small increases we've had over the years have had their effect on the capability of lower division teams to be able to play national events. <br /><br />I look forward to hearing your opinions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-3023073787725319382012-01-27T03:57:42.772-05:002012-01-27T03:57:42.772-05:00Like Nick precise, for Europe to limit at 3 pots p...Like Nick precise, for Europe to limit at 3 pots plus a loader per point does not change anything.we just did test with 2 tournaments in Europe. a 12 teams and 18 teams tournament and it did not affect at all the game.<br />However, in the states the affect will be significant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-55811787300947171922012-01-27T03:55:55.655-05:002012-01-27T03:55:55.655-05:00The data is coming from a study that i did with se...The data is coming from a study that i did with several people by checking how many box have been used during a complete game. we did in the states and in Europe. we deduct the paint left after the last point to be the most accurate possible.<br />we also double check with most of the paint supplier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-72626397841254503272012-01-26T16:10:53.475-05:002012-01-26T16:10:53.475-05:00However, I don't really see the need to restri...However, I don't really see the need to restrict paint, when the consumption is low already.... maybe it's more question of the PSP adopting the Millennium Rules, as a first step.<br /><br />Would be interesting, if someone asked the Dynasty guys how they feel about the 2 different formats, since they have played both for 2 years running.<br /><br />And yes, I won't bore you with lowered ROF this time around, I don't think anyone is in doubt about my position on that issue anymore :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-49960819963695916332012-01-26T16:04:58.012-05:002012-01-26T16:04:58.012-05:00While I have no way of veryfying this guys data, m...While I have no way of veryfying this guys data, my feeling is a case a point is about right, in the top 3 divisions in the Millennium Series.<br /><br />Consumption increases when you get into the finals, where people tend to play little more conservatively, upto around 1.5 case a pointAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-89439936454436725002012-01-26T14:05:09.110-05:002012-01-26T14:05:09.110-05:00ROF 10, and 5 pods each one plus 1 pods to put in ...ROF 10, and 5 pods each one plus 1 pods to put in loader to start.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-5661892048914693322012-01-26T13:42:18.535-05:002012-01-26T13:42:18.535-05:00Where is your data coming from?
How do you know th...Where is your data coming from?<br />How do you know the average paint consumption for R7 in the US versus R5 in CPL?<br /><br />Paint vendor or making it up?J. Steinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047808384799739939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-43856006011957545212012-01-26T11:51:57.631-05:002012-01-26T11:51:57.631-05:00The concept is quite simple.
limited paint per poi...The concept is quite simple.<br />limited paint per point per player<br />each player go on the field with maximum 3 pots of 140 balls and a loader of 200 balls.<br />on the base players can give swith pots depedning the tactics they have .example. front player can give paint to back player.<br />the goal is to limit to 3100 balls per point per team.<br />by doing this system and it has been tested in Europe during 2 tournaments, it will decrease the paint consomption by 2 in the states.<br />for europe it does not change anything at all because the average players are using is 350 ball per player per point. of course ROF need to be also drop at 10 balls.<br />average paint in Europe for R5 in CPL is 7 boxes for a team.<br />right now in the states for R7 (like in Orlando) is 20 cases!<br />For R5 it is in the states (PSP) is 14 boxes!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-70395647290773846962012-01-26T10:40:12.460-05:002012-01-26T10:40:12.460-05:00Let every player carry as much paint as they want,...Let every player carry as much paint as they want, plus one squad buster.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-73185693725237195572012-01-26T10:22:32.431-05:002012-01-26T10:22:32.431-05:00Anon #3
Your big list of advantages isn't much...Anon #3<br />Your big list of advantages isn't much help if we don't see it and you remain anonymous. So far you haven't offered anything new--or anything anybody will play.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-84551438369145301482012-01-26T08:20:26.847-05:002012-01-26T08:20:26.847-05:00You have in the states a serious issue with the pa...You have in the states a serious issue with the paint consumption which is affecting the development of the sports. <br />I made some serious study and for example in pro psp category, players are using around 700 balls per point which is twice used in Europe in the Millennium in Pro.<br />Mainly due to the layout and ROF.<br />2bps differencee is nearly 23% paint more use in the states than in Europe.<br />To limit the amount of paint per point per player is a very clever idea which will bring a lot to the game. Combined to dropping the ROF, it could save 50% of paint expenses to teams. It will brink bakc for sure more skill in the game. will oblige players to be more accurate especially with their first shots. we will see more moves and talented players will get a serious advantage.<br />i have a big list of advantages but before Americans understand most of it, you will have lost 10% more teams...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-75578659806907749152012-01-26T04:49:53.049-05:002012-01-26T04:49:53.049-05:00Everyone knows Raehl is a big mouth and a blow har...Everyone knows Raehl is a big mouth and a blow hard who brow beats and tries to intimidate people over the internet to get his way. Otherwise he cries and takes his toys and goes home.<br /><br />On that note, *lets the players dictate the game*. Go to a local field you morons and see what it is people enjoy playing - don't try and PUSH a format down upon them. <br /><br />Man, so many people who can't see the forrest for the trees. It's sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-75583061089497390132012-01-26T03:25:59.522-05:002012-01-26T03:25:59.522-05:00I'm pretty sure those 300 foot fields also had...I'm pretty sure those 300 foot fields also had 20 people on them. And trees. And guns that topped out at 8 bps.<br /><br />Just sayin'.raehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311405248370629057noreply@blogger.com