tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post5241502344371026652..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: Whose Penalty Is It Anyway?Baca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-83069524882590876602014-07-23T21:33:07.074-04:002014-07-23T21:33:07.074-04:001) Limit Paint
2) Take pods. Can even do it on li...1) Limit Paint<br />2) Take pods. Can even do it on live players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-58281273355419859052014-07-23T19:04:44.124-04:002014-07-23T19:04:44.124-04:00I am sure there are numerous warnings given to pla...I am sure there are numerous warnings given to players and team staff both many many times throughout a match. I am sure very many of the "stupid" penalties given to a team are things they have been warned about already. I just reffed an xball tournament this past weekend, a friend of mine came out with the bottom of his flexes rolled up. First time was a warning. Second time was a minor. He understood his own idiocy, however the rest of the team did not. Fair or not? He did get a warning. Its a rule though so he got the minor. Players should know the rules, as well as the the rest of the staff. If you cant follow the rules then the official is there to penalize you. So the officials are going to call the penalties as the rulebook is written. If the PSP or any league changes rules then thats what gets called no matter how stupid it is. In regards to the podboy penalty, what if its a player or coach that steps out, should the penalty still be the same? I say on the 2 pro fields make the team lose any person who steps on the field early for the rest of the match. Be it player, podboy or coach. Make them sit like a suspended player. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-42971069337707151062014-07-18T13:11:31.353-04:002014-07-18T13:11:31.353-04:00How about you just tell "podboys" or pla...How about you just tell "podboys" or players taking the field to early etc.. that the point isn't over and to get back in the pit. It requires about the same effort and awareness as enforcing a penalty. I just don't see why officials can't manage as well as penalize. Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-82805673820707460692014-07-18T09:57:47.744-04:002014-07-18T09:57:47.744-04:00I think Joshua's idea is sensible.I think Joshua's idea is sensible.Missy Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-80586364771364677652014-07-17T20:23:14.340-04:002014-07-17T20:23:14.340-04:00Paul - it was in jest, but what am I missing? Don&...Paul - it was in jest, but what am I missing? Don't they have a mask on when coming on the field? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670870397257191658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-14871033270019552682014-07-17T17:04:42.551-04:002014-07-17T17:04:42.551-04:00If you handle it as a safety issue then you could ...If you handle it as a safety issue then you could always handle it like fields do when rec ballers take off their masks. You come on early once you get a warning, second time you have to leave the pit area for the rest of the game. Might be a little harsh but does a descent job of isolating the punishment to the pod boy. Obviously if it's the coach the team will feel the effects a little more but I don't see how you can single out an integral part of the team to punish without it having adverse effects on the team as a whole.Joshua W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05748464670309636010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-7620890547484924752014-07-17T16:44:08.854-04:002014-07-17T16:44:08.854-04:00Thach
That isn't even remotely possible.
red...Thach<br />That isn't even remotely possible. <br /><br />redakuma<br />A warning of sorts will be given beginning in Riverside for this specific issue--and PSP refs working lower divisions do have leeway. But there are lots of similar scenarios and "answers" need to address the totality of game management, not piecemeal handle problems that come up. (Not that you suggested differently. I'm just taking this opportunity to make that point.)<br /><br />7lash<br />That is punishing the team.<br /><br />725 Anon<br />Sounds to me like a minor penalty is easier to swallow than your alternative. Which somebody still needs to enforce.<br /><br />920 Anon<br />Decimation is rather more severe than I think we want to consider.<br /><br />Mike<br />While the situation seems inconsequential there is a potential safety component the league takes seriously and also seriously you can't have non-players randomly running around the field of play.<br /><br />Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-89398135923883102952014-07-17T14:55:04.774-04:002014-07-17T14:55:04.774-04:00Obviously he's not running out in the middle o...Obviously he's not running out in the middle of a point or he would risk getting shot to pieces, so is he coming out just before the flag is hung or before the flag hanger as been determined to be clean or dirty and the whistle blows? What's the point of penalizing him or the team anyway? If the field is live he will figure it out rather quickly and get his butt back off the field and if he doesn't then it might be interesting to watch him scramble around collecting pods while under fire. Heck the pod boy who picks up the most pods while under duress wins any ties for his team. Now that's an IDEA!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670870397257191658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-87512245164780168192014-07-17T09:20:28.122-04:002014-07-17T09:20:28.122-04:00Drag the pod boy to the middle of the field and ha...Drag the pod boy to the middle of the field and have his own team beat him with sticks.<br />Worked for the Romans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-67635118923133483532014-07-17T07:25:43.528-04:002014-07-17T07:25:43.528-04:00No Pods.
Reduce the amount that can be carried on...No Pods.<br /><br />Reduce the amount that can be carried on - force the action and reduce the tactical options.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-51939695735809442672014-07-17T03:54:47.231-04:002014-07-17T03:54:47.231-04:00In this instance, punish the pod-boy, not the team...In this instance, punish the pod-boy, not the team. Don't allow the collection of pods for that point.7lashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-26243502195829132552014-07-16T21:03:21.799-04:002014-07-16T21:03:21.799-04:00refs should have discretion to warm or pull penalt...refs should have discretion to warm or pull penalties. Agreed freight training warrants penalties, but pod boy foul ups being equal too. Come on really? On the divisional level give the kids a break some are new to paintball and refs are not given any leeway. A warning system should be added. redakuma pbnationnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-66289512894488411442014-07-16T19:13:23.189-04:002014-07-16T19:13:23.189-04:00One player cannot engage for 30 seconds. They can ...One player cannot engage for 30 seconds. They can go to a bunker OTB but cannot fire a shot or advance to another bunker until time is up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053081180806179125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-64280500476235882952014-07-16T18:34:14.400-04:002014-07-16T18:34:14.400-04:00Anons
Those may be fine for the pro fields. What a...Anons<br />Those may be fine for the pro fields. What about divisional?<br />Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-67787607515336853062014-07-16T18:25:53.997-04:002014-07-16T18:25:53.997-04:00Give the refs the discretion to NOT make calls, wh...Give the refs the discretion to NOT make calls, when the offence has no impact on the outcome of the point.... then build the right culture amongst your refs :)<br /><br />Oh, and another thing... can we please get rid of "out of bounce" in paintball? - it is a remnant of when people would leave the field to re-enter elsewhere in woodsball, and has no relevance on modern netted x-ball fields.Nick Brockdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058065730404049908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-16995282375277457142014-07-16T17:59:19.164-04:002014-07-16T17:59:19.164-04:00What are the realistic, non-ridiculous range of op...What are the realistic, non-ridiculous range of options?<br /><br />Forfeit point<br />1 minute<br />30 seconds<br />15 seconds<br />Warning Card followed by Player/Pod boy/Coach Ejection<br /><br />Every ref has a red and yellow card. The ref holds the yellow card up at a player/podboy/coach to warn them. The next warning is a red card which means ejection. <br /><br />Not so hard... (other than remembering who got a yellow and is deserving of a red next time!)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-9856004341254455042014-07-16T17:55:09.813-04:002014-07-16T17:55:09.813-04:00Why not introduce a 10 or 15 second penalty at the...Why not introduce a 10 or 15 second penalty at the start of the next point? They lose a gun at the breakout, but they get the player back right away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-88801099696482422742014-07-16T17:49:24.765-04:002014-07-16T17:49:24.765-04:00If a player gets a penalty,next point that player,...If a player gets a penalty,next point that player, or another if the original player is not on the field, they would be limited to 3 pods and a hopper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-14285904614761519952014-07-16T17:21:58.408-04:002014-07-16T17:21:58.408-04:00Maybe a team should lose their timeout if, let'...Maybe a team should lose their timeout if, let's say the pod boy/coach enters the field too soon. Or maybe make those penalties on 30secs instead of a minute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com