tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post533357463246295461..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: Pushing PaintballsBaca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-48013082991896386182011-02-10T11:27:59.908-05:002011-02-10T11:27:59.908-05:00Anon, I can see it lowering their expenses (althou...Anon, I can see it lowering their expenses (although maybe at the expense of quality), but how does lowering cost "allow them to charge what they want"? There is still competition in the marketplace. They can't just charge as much as they feel like charging. Ask Procaps. I'm sure they would like to (or even need to) charge more than they do to get themselves out of the hole they are in.Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-66125399919289605612011-02-10T10:00:17.394-05:002011-02-10T10:00:17.394-05:00Of course it'll be a mess. I can see all paint...Of course it'll be a mess. I can see all paint but Tournament being manufactured overseas for the big boys. Lowers their bottom line and allows them to charge what they want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-38283640412968438062011-02-09T23:14:55.197-05:002011-02-09T23:14:55.197-05:00Cash is King on the West coast.Those stores that s...Cash is King on the West coast.Those stores that sponser teams and do a lot of internet sales love cash.25.00 to 30.00 a case for decent straight shooting tourny paint if you buy a bunch.Cash discount for new markers and way below list.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00985247445476558468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-82442177201897845352011-02-09T15:28:29.763-05:002011-02-09T15:28:29.763-05:00It's going to be a bloodbath. An absolute mess...It's going to be a bloodbath. An absolute mess.<br />One group will try to buy market share, the other will do all they can to protect it, because they are alreeady making the paint.<br /><br />A huge, ugly mess.Missy-Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-15234229938238158902011-02-09T09:59:32.748-05:002011-02-09T09:59:32.748-05:00I guess new companies see more benefit from gettin...I guess new companies see more benefit from getting their product exposed than existing companies whose names are already household words in the paintballl community.<br /><br />It's a balnacing act. How much product can you give away and how much can you spend on advertising and stilll make a profit in an environment where the price has been beaten down to the bare bones. If you are new, you probably have no choice but to spend more to increse sales to the point where you can compete with similar economies of scale. It makes you wonder though into how many pieces the pie can get cut up and still maintain those same price levels.<br /><br />Our wholesaler switched from Procaps to GI Milsim recently because Procaps announced a fairly hefty price increase and GI Milsim did not. But how long can GI Milsim stay there? Have they found a way to be that much more efficient in paint manufacturing/distribution?Reiner Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735297279972068471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-85994059607003847422011-02-09T08:08:36.401-05:002011-02-09T08:08:36.401-05:00less free paint to pros turns into more sold at a ...less free paint to pros turns into more sold at a discounted price to division teams. sounds smarts to me. at least there is some income selling to lower teams, plus the discounts make it look special for them all. kee is on the right track.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174614034472731918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-60046343128402312482011-02-09T01:40:13.176-05:002011-02-09T01:40:13.176-05:00Joe,
Over where I am we have very minimal choices...Joe,<br /><br />Over where I am we have very minimal choices when it comes to paint. For one, the tournament organizers are the ones who choose what paint to be sold on game day which means they are making some money off the paint sales.<br /><br />Now we dont really mind if we do not shoot tournament grade paint but even if it is field paint it should shoot straight out of the barrel. I agree that cheaper paint does not mean bad paint. However paint consumption during tournaments shows a large margin of difference.<br /><br />My team consumes about 20 cases of field grade paint in a local league per event. That is for 8 prelim matches only. Then we took part in World Cup Asia where we used tournament grade paint... we played 10 prelim matches and only consumed 13 cases of paint. That is a difference of 7 cases!<br /><br />From a paint sponsors point we in Asia don't get much if any from sponsorships. Most to most perhaps a few free cases of paint depending on event and affiliation of organizers and local shops. So you could say 95% of teams from where I come from pay for their paint and here it costs any where from USD50 to USD80 per case depending on grade.<br /><br />Personally we'll pay for better paint for the accuracy and better mark ability which in turn helps the marshals do their job better.Rauffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844242896174069577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-75067229375292749442011-02-09T00:25:48.920-05:002011-02-09T00:25:48.920-05:00This one brings up questions I have, as a prior di...This one brings up questions I have, as a prior divisional player where the purchasing of paint is prior setup, but if you find that some other paint is shooting better; you proceed to find a rep from that company and switch paint for the event5. Most divisional players are not held to a particular paint company, unless something else is worked out. I remember texas o so many years ago and we tried everything/ every paint to get out the end of the barrel when we found one we paid more to shot it and did better.<br /><br />so my question is what sorta business do the paint sponsors of an event do(how much do they move sorta thing) and does it very from region to region depending on what the "big" fields in the area carry. Do divisional teams have an effect on how much they sell. <br /><br />I ask this because as a former divisional player when I played I only cared if it shot out of the barrel and was cheap. I did not care if I shot a premium paint.JoeMalakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127207936488632306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-56868323118030094892011-02-08T19:18:21.684-05:002011-02-08T19:18:21.684-05:00I think sponsorships trickling down to divisional ...I think sponsorships trickling down to divisional teams are just simply to make the products feel more relevant to the majority of the market. Most if not all of the big teams are concentrated in the US and Europe. Spending power has always been in the hands of the lower divisions plus with markets in Asia on a steady growth manufacturers are spreading their resource is more baskets.<br /><br />Whether this will work still has to be known but it is better than piling the dough on the meager number of pro teams. Believe it or not paint brands like RPS with the high end Evil and Draxxus are not widely used anywhere else but the US and EU. Trust me, in Asia we get crappy field paint for tournaments.... which is just a bitch.Rauffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844242896174069577noreply@blogger.com