tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post8389733455560225152..comments2024-01-19T00:21:36.058-05:00Comments on View from the Deadbox: Mailbag Extra: NPPL Drops Format Bomb!Baca Locohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-73981399479162505412011-12-08T12:06:31.746-05:002011-12-08T12:06:31.746-05:00I think you got me on that, whatever NPPL come up ...I think you got me on that, whatever NPPL come up with its bound to be a complete hash up, one of the reasons MS actually works is that they have pretty darn good officiating. Personally, I didn't see a really bad call across all four fields on Paris but I did see a couple of misjudgements corrected instantly by one field ultimate.Full Borehttp://www.fullboreimages.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-74187966676002974122011-12-07T22:24:35.464-05:002011-12-07T22:24:35.464-05:00Full Bore
From the Millennium website's descri...Full Bore<br />From the Millennium website's description of D3 "The top four teams will qualify for the semifinals and finals.The final games only (games for 3rd and 1st place) will be played in R:4 format, to give the top teams of Division 3 a taste of Division 2 atmosphere in order to bridge the gap between these categories. Division 3 will play Saturday and Sunday only."<br />My shorthand point was that I made an assumption about what the NPPL intend based on an incomplete review of what the Millennium currently does.<br /><br />Anon<br />Probably. But what was happening was their Chinese manufacturer was selling Suicide shells independent of Hybrid out the backdoor. They weren't knock-offs, they were literally the real deal, only bypassing the company it belonged to.<br /><br />Other Anon<br />I think the field size change will be across the board but I can't confirm that.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-28234148573840018962011-12-07T21:49:02.516-05:002011-12-07T21:49:02.516-05:00seems like a logistical nightmare if they are chan...seems like a logistical nightmare if they are changing the field lengths for 5 manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-85059325999107021362011-12-07T18:38:07.893-05:002011-12-07T18:38:07.893-05:00Baca,
If my memory serves correct. Hybrids main p...Baca,<br /><br />If my memory serves correct. Hybrids main problem was Kee had the Hybrid name trademarked. As for the factory over producing. I would venture to guess Hybrid was over projecting and couldn't foot the bill.<br /><br />As for format changes.... just another year of tournament paintball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-74250732126743303182011-12-07T18:31:55.045-05:002011-12-07T18:31:55.045-05:00Baca Loco said...
"Full Bore
Fair enough. D3...Baca Loco said...<br /><br />"Full Bore<br />Fair enough. D3 only plays Race 2-4 in the finals."<br /><br />Nope, still race to 2 :)Full Borehttp://www.fullboreimages.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-77527627006938421232011-12-07T18:02:29.054-05:002011-12-07T18:02:29.054-05:00Wasn't Hybrid's problem that they A) used ...Wasn't Hybrid's problem that they A) used protected images in some of their products, and, B) Their Chinese factory was over-producing and selling out the backdoor? (That's the way I remember it, anyway.)<br /><br />Devon,<br />I don't know about times or clocks. It seems the field will be altered though (shorter and wider) and that the matches will be played two at a time--which is a Millennium practice. (Teams A & B alternate playing points with teams C & D.)Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-2432893668909795542011-12-07T16:20:18.994-05:002011-12-07T16:20:18.994-05:00It was a rhetorical question, but I see you got my...It was a rhetorical question, but I see you got my point.Don Saavedrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08556414730946720412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-49468087121103427062011-12-07T16:02:56.165-05:002011-12-07T16:02:56.165-05:00"Right? I mean, who would go and invent a nam..."Right? I mean, who would go and invent a name/logo and not get it protected as Intellectual Property?"<br /><br />Hyrbid rings a bell....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-74869748067232826232011-12-07T15:52:25.349-05:002011-12-07T15:52:25.349-05:00Any word from insiders on how they will choose to ...Any word from insiders on how they will choose to run these race to 5 and 4 matches? Will each game still have a time limit of 7 min or will each match have a time limit? I can't imagine these matches possibly being under an hour in total time. One thing is for sure, operating costs for the NPPL are about to double, or more. I wonder how long they can afford to keep events like this running.Devon Stuartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-66466543072820638482011-12-07T12:26:43.875-05:002011-12-07T12:26:43.875-05:00We know "XBall" is tm'ed... but sure...We know "XBall" is tm'ed... but surely Race2 and it's variants were as well.<br /><br />Right? I mean, who would go and invent a name/logo and not get it protected as Intellectual Property?Don Saavedrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08556414730946720412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-49985837796167968122011-12-07T07:11:10.789-05:002011-12-07T07:11:10.789-05:00*sits back with popcorn*
im going to go out on a l...*sits back with popcorn*<br />im going to go out on a limb and say this is the end for the NPPL. no way they can produce a quality race-2 event imo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-1523230795074869312011-12-06T23:31:03.109-05:002011-12-06T23:31:03.109-05:00I wish the NPPL luck, but I hope they are not spre...I wish the NPPL luck, but I hope they are not spreading themselves too thin in terms of formats and their ability to deliver quality matches to their paying customers. <br /><br />I was a little taken back by the NPPL's ability to release a full schedule so quickly after merger talks ended. (No biggie, just seemed like they were more focused on next year then locking down a deal. (Outsiders View)) <br /><br />Maybe conversations about format adoption were part of the merger talks, but if not, to disseminate a press release stating that you’re going to offer the competitions format seems insulting.CadeXhttp://www.pbpickem.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-70649303945270302562011-12-06T22:27:39.032-05:002011-12-06T22:27:39.032-05:00Hmmm to pull this off... extra cash has been found...Hmmm to pull this off... extra cash has been found... the word xball being used.. throw in italia as cash cow and new paint sponsor... as in most things we see today.. cant make a good one ..steel it or make a good copy... this sherly clouds the water (dont call me sherly)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-39835444413063460592011-12-06T22:18:33.147-05:002011-12-06T22:18:33.147-05:00The NPPL is working with the MS....FYIThe NPPL is working with the MS....FYIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-80150066926295845262011-12-06T21:31:51.601-05:002011-12-06T21:31:51.601-05:00sdawg
No head popping. Maybe I'm amazed, but ....sdawg<br />No head popping. Maybe I'm amazed, but ... :)<br /><br />Xball as a trademark name belongs to Richmond Italia, I think. Which is one reason the PSP changed their game to Race 2.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-15458257091379790812011-12-06T21:26:59.578-05:002011-12-06T21:26:59.578-05:00Full Bore
Fair enough. D3 only plays Race 2-4 in t...Full Bore<br />Fair enough. D3 only plays Race 2-4 in the finals.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-85598836503027052742011-12-06T21:24:02.504-05:002011-12-06T21:24:02.504-05:00I thought that this e-mail as a joke at first. Sec...I thought that this e-mail as a joke at first. Second thought was that Baca's head was popping off. Third thought is: isn't X-ball a trademarked name or something, meaning the original inventor granted the right to use that term?<br /><br />Seeing as how 1) raceto teams seems pretty much in favor of the PSP (for all the reasons discussed; and 2) the NPPL can barely draw enough 7-man "traditional" teams in recent years, it seems like the most likely outcome is that the race-to format is dropped from lack of participation after the first event.<br /><br />7-man race-to in pro seems designed to bankrupt teams.sdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323770608334563797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-30866236066836560842011-12-06T21:23:39.057-05:002011-12-06T21:23:39.057-05:00Vijil
You're over-thinking this. Of course the...Vijil<br />You're over-thinking this. Of course the NPPL isn't working with the MS.<br /><br />Not even close. All they are thinking about now is winning.<br /><br />And the reason they are calling their Race 2 Millennium-style is because they intend to run 4 teams on a field at a time. Team A plays a point versus team B. Then team C plays team D. Then A & B come back out for another point and so on. What it is not is Race 2 the way most North American players think of Race 2. Or so it would seem from what Frank said over at PBN's NPPL forum.Baca Locohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014510414015288907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-37384934205458404532011-12-06T21:17:17.691-05:002011-12-06T21:17:17.691-05:00"[And there's the small matter of the Mil..."[And there's the small matter of the Millennium no longer offering the M5 division--Race 2-2 that NPPL are assigning to D4 5-man. It was only played in Germany in 2011 and isn't on the 2012 schedule. Details, I know.]"<br /><br />FYI, MS Div 3 is Race to 2 (as played by JRab & Little Leif in Paris) M5 5-man (single games in a grouped round robin) is the format that was only played in Germany, I'm guessing German teams dug their heels in and refused to be 'upgraded' to a multiple point format - as many teams were this year, either from their original M5 entry applications, or from D3 to D2 race to 4.<br /><br />Just saying.Full Borenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-84660957681854250002011-12-06T21:00:55.166-05:002011-12-06T21:00:55.166-05:00Yeesh... this makes things interesting. Not sure ...Yeesh... this makes things interesting. Not sure entirely what to make of it. Does it mean the NPPL are working with the Millenium or have some kind of arrangement? Does it mean the NPPL are sorting themselves out and getting a more long term view?<br /><br />Will it kill the NPPL?Vijilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981790115639852707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3804718502406028481.post-9351546997714461282011-12-06T19:55:50.705-05:002011-12-06T19:55:50.705-05:00Dear NPPL,
Please don’t ruin a format that I enjoy...Dear NPPL,<br />Please don’t ruin a format that I enjoy just because you want to try something new… Just because you have the ability to offer the format might not mean that you have the structure to supply the format properly. My fear is that your ‘Race-To’ delivery will be sub-par and not only reflect poorly on your league but also damage a solid format that others have spent time and money to refine.CadeXhttp://www.pbpickem.comnoreply@blogger.com