You know what I'm talking about. The kids working the PSP webcast magic. Yeah, those guys. PBAccess. Yeah it's somehow affiliated with, cross pollinated by, shared ownership with or something like that with the PSP. Whatever. That's not why I wanted to mention the site today. It could end up being my favorite paintball website--well, other than VFTD of course.
Here's the thing. If you've been around the major league game for any length of time you know all about the big dreams that go along with it. Big dreams that have been dreamt not only by an innumerable number of players but by the movers & shakers of Paintball Inc. You also know those big dreams have never quite managed to make the move to reality. Even after literally millions of dollars have been spent. So if you're a bit cynical when it comes to big paintball's big dreams join the club. But if you think that's what PBAccess is all about you're mistaken.
Okay, sure, there is a real world truth involved that aims to make money from the project. And I hope they do. I hope they do because it will mean that maybe just maybe bigger things really are possible for competitive paintball but more importantly it will mean another means of supporting this three ring circus we call major league paintball. But all that stuff is the business of paintball. Paintball is supposed to be fun not work--at least for most of us. And the real reason I'm recommending you start checking out PBAccess as part of your routine paintball fix is because serious honest-to-goodness entertaining product is beginning to roll out of the pipeline and a lot of it is stuff you won't find, can't find, any place else.
Are you digging the stats? Did you know there's tons of recent game videos on the site too? Loads of D1 matches for the divisional crowd. The Top 10--which I think you can count on being a recurring updated list with each event. Some in-depth video interviews and my current favorite, the Real Deal podcasts. (Lu always puts a smile on my face.) If you want to learn more about the game or just dip a toe vicariously into the competitive paintball deep end of the pool PBAccess is beginning to deliver. If you're dedicated to competitive paintball it's the place to be--right after you finish up at VFTD. Here's hoping it's just the start.
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Baca Loco is the forum name I first used at P8ntballer.com and kept when I starting writing for PGi magazine, the late, lamented Paintball Games International. At various times I did gun reviews, event reports, the occasional feature, How-To’s & a monthly column entitled, View from the Deadbox. At one time or another I’ve done most everything you can do in paintball other than own a field or run a tourney series. For the last several years I have coached a number of pro teams and generally made a nuisance of myself whenever possible.
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Baca Loco is the forum name I first used at P8ntballer.com and kept when I starting writing for PGi magazine, the late, lamented Paintball Games International. At various times I did gun reviews, event reports, the occasional feature, How-To’s & a monthly column entitled, View from the Deadbox. At one time or another I’ve done most everything you can do in paintball other than own a field or run a tourney series. For the last several years I have coached a number of pro teams and generally made a nuisance of myself whenever possible.
About VIEW FROM THE DEADOX:
One purpose of this blog is to encourage a dialogue about competitive paintball and permitting commenter anonymity is intended to encourage the participation of those who actually know what they are talking about. The rest of you are also welcome, even encouraged, to comment as well. (I don't really need any encouragement.)
The other purpose of this blog is to provide a focus for my attention deficit disorder and hold boredom at bay.
About my views:
Brilliant, visionary and almost always correct. Get used to it. Oh, and I'm humble too. Feel free to disagree as long as you are prepared to be wrong.
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How is paintball like golf? Golf is played outdoors on nice, well kept grass or, if something goes horribly wrong, off in the woods. Same with paintball.
How is a paintball made? What am I, Wikipedia?
Who are your sponsors? Who hasn't been one of my sponsors? I won't be trying to promote current sponsors on this blog nor will I take shots at non-sponsors. I don't give gun, goggle or gear advice so it really doesn't matter.
What's your view on cheating? It's wrong and has no place in the game. That's why I don't play scenario or Big Games.
What's your favorite marker? The free one.
Where did that awesome photo come from in the blog header? It is the work of photographer extraordinaire, Brandon Showers or the vixen with a Nikon (or maybe a Canon) Meagan Foster.
What's your favorite team? Grow up.
Who started the Rec vs. Tourney war? Some will say that's just the way it's always been. Others claim it's natural for the sides to be at odds. I say, aren't we all brothers under the goggles? I'm not sure but ask yourself who benefits? Follow the money. Could it be a covert plot of the Military Simulation Industrial Complex? As long as the war rages on there will be a demand for more paint, more markers and Big Paintball will continue to count its profits instead of the cost. Give peace a chance. That's all that I'm saying.
How do I get sponsored? You don't.
Will you send me any free stuff if I tell you what a big fan I am? No.
Is agg dead yet? Yes, it's time to move on to some new uber hip trendiness that everyone can follow to demonstrate their individuality.
Is it true the inside of Ollie Lang's gearbag smells like roses? No, strawberries and cream.
You don't really know any Pro players, do you? Rats, you caught me out.
What makes your opinion so important? It's my blog, d'oh! And has already been noted I'm almost always correct. There's quite a lot to be said for being right.
How is a paintball made? What am I, Wikipedia?
Who are your sponsors? Who hasn't been one of my sponsors? I won't be trying to promote current sponsors on this blog nor will I take shots at non-sponsors. I don't give gun, goggle or gear advice so it really doesn't matter.
What's your view on cheating? It's wrong and has no place in the game. That's why I don't play scenario or Big Games.
What's your favorite marker? The free one.
Where did that awesome photo come from in the blog header? It is the work of photographer extraordinaire, Brandon Showers or the vixen with a Nikon (or maybe a Canon) Meagan Foster.
What's your favorite team? Grow up.
Who started the Rec vs. Tourney war? Some will say that's just the way it's always been. Others claim it's natural for the sides to be at odds. I say, aren't we all brothers under the goggles? I'm not sure but ask yourself who benefits? Follow the money. Could it be a covert plot of the Military Simulation Industrial Complex? As long as the war rages on there will be a demand for more paint, more markers and Big Paintball will continue to count its profits instead of the cost. Give peace a chance. That's all that I'm saying.
How do I get sponsored? You don't.
Will you send me any free stuff if I tell you what a big fan I am? No.
Is agg dead yet? Yes, it's time to move on to some new uber hip trendiness that everyone can follow to demonstrate their individuality.
Is it true the inside of Ollie Lang's gearbag smells like roses? No, strawberries and cream.
You don't really know any Pro players, do you? Rats, you caught me out.
What makes your opinion so important? It's my blog, d'oh! And has already been noted I'm almost always correct. There's quite a lot to be said for being right.
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46 comments:
You just want a return of your favorite anon.
Lucian blackburns podcast was the best thing I have listend to in a long time.
I can't find any video on the site of your tennis incident?
PBA is very impressive. What's perhaps more impressive is an entirely positive post by Senior Loco.
Ken
Let it go.
12:35 Anon
It was rather hopeful I think but it was also conditional--cool content, thumbs up--nothing shakin' well ...
And my goggles post was positive. The Monday Poll post was opinion aimed at eliciting a response. The Banning of HD: Final Thoughts was positive that the MS needs to do some more work. The Ancient & Honourable Art of Bird-Dogging was positively entertaining ... :)
Unlikely. You've titillated me. I'll have to catch up with you in Vegas (assuming you attend) and introduce myself, just to hear the story. I'll be the one asking...."Tennis anyone?"
You know you want to tell...why else would you mention such thing?
Ken = beating dead horse
I can't very well call him out on that, now can I?
Yes Ken I expect to be in Vegas so I can enjoy your profound disappointment in person. :)
See there, I've gone and made you smile. My work here is done.
And I've never understood what's the issue with beating dead horses, the horse never seems to mind.
Never have we seen such disaster recorded so intensively, accurately, methodically to produce nothing, advertise to no one and progress to nowhere.
It is beyond embarrassment that a group of grown men should go so far to protect their sense of denial and use others in this way to promote the most menial and marginal of paces.
Let’s extrapolate;
Est. 10 Million US Paintball Players in the Course of 1 Year
Less than 5,000 Active US Tournament Players
The Pitch?
-Paintball On Television
-“Legitimize” Paintball (What is “illegitimate” paintball btw?)
-Advertising Vehicle
PBACCESS = Less than 1% of overall US Market
We’re talking about less than a fraction of a percent here.
“90,000+-“ “Members” of PBA Forum (Let’s assume this number is viewership World Wide)
Exposure rate is at least 500K on Facebook/ w/2,000 “LIKES” for PBA on Facebook
Less than a 1/5th of the active advertised market retained worldwide.
You know what it takes to be published domestically?
in a sports Magazine?
1-3 Million active/interested readers
Television?
5 Million active/interested viewers
Internet?
10 Million unique IP’s
Those are bare minimums. Advertising like “ICY/HOT” or “Medic Alert Bracelets” look for these numbers.
Mainstream advertising looks for double/triple those numbers. We’re talking 10-15% of overall market. 30 Million and above.
In the case of sport- 113 Million people worldwide watched the SuperBowl last year. That’s a 1/3rd of the American populace.
Nearly half of the civilized world watches the World Cup.
And here we are-
The PSP and NPPL are arguing over the last foot and a half of self-fallatio.
Have fun with that.
There is a difference between dream and fantasy.
WE GET IT, YOUR JADED, YOU WERE LEFT OUT, YOU'RE UNHAPPY. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT "YOU" FEEL IT'S HELPING OR EVEN NECESSARY FOR PAINTBALL, THE COVERAGE PBACESS IS PROVIDING IS AMAZING. LET IT GO, OR STEP UP, INVEST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YOUR OWN DOLLARS AND LET THE PLAYERS JUDGE YOUR PRODUCT.
Caps locks added for turbo effect
How dare they attempt something and then fall short of the Super Bowl! What ingrates!
3:34 / 3:38 anon:
Before you speak another word on the tangent that you're going off on (which is difficult to understand as you seem to never reach a conclusion with any of your ramblings), please spell fellatio correctly.
Thanks!
The guy has a point. Look at the amount of money spent on the webcast - its astronomical. If someone said to Lane - 'you can have that money to spend on the PSP' he would be able do so much with it. Even if it was just spent putting a full page ad at the most popular newspapers in the event cities, or on radio ads, or even on a more fitting Orlando location with something to do within 15 minutes of where people can stay.
ALL CAPS-
“Amazing” to me does not include the creation of a media censorship and vacuum to be filled with laterally ill-conceived rights of image on “behalf of the players”.
I don’t remember any such negotiation of property rights, simply, Lane spouts in his childish way the benefits of having a single manager, one ill-equipped to make such decisions in my opinion. The evidence is clear by now, let’s be blunt;
Sorry- but if Pro Players were not spoiled and coddled with a promised sponsorship and subsequent player to industry position favoritism, we would not have this problem.
They would truly pursue contractual agreements and would be paid in full with the help of working lawyers by which these contracts were negotiated and held to standard.
The PSP is a protest league with its beneficiaries, the manufacturers, producing a fantasy sport for man-child rejectionists (Cite: Don, Matty are good examples). The manufacturers did not “get their way” and it grew from that first protest towards establishment of the denial state.
The NPPL is a good example of reality in paintball;
Volunteers are required, Refs are poor to judge (let’s face it, spotting a .68 caliber point in the field of many tens of square feet is beyond difficult), and even against these issues of financial stability, the NPPL has produced recurring Television endorsements as well as regular first-party investors. It is the players league.
But the NPPL is as flawed in that neither game is of great importance to begin with. The boiled down version of the paintball scenario sport is poor in delivering on both philosophical and material product.
Shut it down- It doesn’t work.
Then again, why play paintball? In at least, why contrive the competitive edge of a paintball sport if it is by definition already the appreciatory discipline of a martial art? It is already competitive- the means to dislocate this effort for the sake of a non-functioning media branch are not justified. They are asinine.
It is pointless.
Scenario games bring in the numbers and long-term fans. They play for life, not a three-year stint. They hold onto their gear and they can find most of it at an Army-Navy.
And why are these two fighting? For what cause? What purpose?
They will not admit violence for the sake of self is good enough.
I contend that it is.
Somehow, I am reviled for pointing out this reality. :eyeroll:
Violence is the basis of our combat sport, one that has been studded and glamorized with “Glitter-Ball” and inflatable girlfrien-… I mean environments to fit a political correctness.
Get real. We live in a comfortable society. There is no reason to deny the truth any longer, this denial of self freedoms and expression is not the stable basis for sport we truly seek. Having a militaristic sport is good enough, let’s endorse that aspect of our culture- in at least, we will have the majority mainstream without contention and it will be promoted greatly.
The manufacturers are chasing a non-existent carrot to appeal to the political wills of unfamiliar, but accurately judging individuals.
A game of political correctness which has none. That is tournament paintball. Is it practical?
Fuck no!
It is a self-induced paradox that feeds on the addictive wills of young adolescence, romantically involved with a false marketing image. The bottom line does not exist in this model.
It has been personalized to no true sense and in a sport of guns everyone's pussy seems to be wet over the attack of identity.
A few dick-hungry Fantasy Generals caught the model ahead of time and involved themselves.
At the very least, one would expect to be “jaded”, yet I am not. Consider that I did not include this cast and crew you have alluded to and realize who they are competing against.
Perhaps you should seek a purpose before questioning mine.
A standard of cowering and political subservience is not a profitable model.
Striving for the sympathy of culture to “secure” paintball as a tournament sport is a problem and it is lead by the likes of the PSP and NPPL.
Let’s take the politics out of paintball.
If you want a gun game, there is no problem in that.
Stand by the gun.
Don’t pussy out.
Don’t bribe a political official in California on "behalf of the players" in collusion with lobbying and other manufacturers/publication outlets.
Don’t enforce the laws as they stand to “benefit” the sport where fields are the only service. That is a monopoly model.
Don’t act like a total loser and claim this freedom is self-inherent. Acting like a child is not protected by law.
Don’t hide behind documents like the Constitution to protect your faulty investment, in misunderstanding its use toward liberty.
Tournament Paintball is a crime against cultured American freedoms in the effort to expunge its best use.
What a crock of shit.
We can change that, but it begins in admitting the state of the game is beyond reparable and that it is irreprehensible.
I support a tournament standard- but not like this. It’s faulty and the proof is years in depth.
Your Favorite Anon believes in you.
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admit it man...
Damnit, where is my Excedrin?
Anyone who suggest that the amount of money being spent on the webcast should be spent on newspaper ads or radio ads instead is an idiot. The conversion of those ads to people coming to paintball tournaments is near zero. The conversion of random people coming to paintball tournaments to becoming fans is also tiny. You get no value for your money in that kind of expense... NPPL proved it many times over.
The webcast is about building a permanent audience. People who like paintball and want to watch paintball. A webcast can reach every single one of them in the world with an internet connection. An event can only reach those in the local geography - and they're probably coming anyway.
The webcast is already reaching more people than have ever attended a paintball event in the history of paintball. And it creates a permanent record, amongst other positives.
Who knows, maybe it won't work. But it's the best shot so far - and certainly gar cheaper than the TV productions of the mid-2000's.
And this is coming from someone who can at least put together a coherent paragraph. Lay off the booze m3s0h0rn7.
"Duh"
Of course I'm mad.
Paintball is too easy.
The argument stands true.
Playing this game you’ve created only goes to prove my point, friend ;)
Likewise, the internet as a marketing vehicle is well determined to only provide access to those seeking it. It does not constitute a promotional model which brings in new and contributing audiences.
Spare me the dramatist position- “more people than have ever attended a paintball event in the history of paintball.”
We do know- it doesn’t work. Sorry Charlie, but the game is over.
You can continue to side on the position of the manufacturer as you have or side with the people’s purpose of paintball sport as a therapeutic and honest standing, something you’ve sided against and done so personally.
Thanks Again // :D
My friends, and I call you all my friends today because I am in an expansive mood, if you didn't love VFTD before you must confess to loving it today if for nothing else than the potential interplay among commenters and the wildly divergent tangents and directions only this audience is capable of. :) Insanity? Spectacle? Genius? A little of all three perhaps? Awesome? Without question.
Wasn’t the PBAccess program the product of failed merger negotiations and the “last ditch effort” to keep the PSP rolling into a 2013 schedule?
To please the Pro Players?
Looks like you created a monster you can't control. :)
heh, Thanks Baca. :D
I appreciate it.
//YrFA
Wow, NRA to the rescue :D
Can I just say, that if you look at the population who own their own equipment and play paintball regularly, the tournament population IS a significant percentage.... and it is that percentage the PSP and NPPL cater to.... as does PaintballAcess.com.
Quoting total participation numbers is completely irrelevant, when most of those are random people that do it once a year for a bachelor party or a company team bulding excercise.
You might as well include anyone who throws around a football on thanksgiving in the population playing football, and then try to tell the NFL they are not catering to their core audience, but rather stroking the Pro players egos.
There IS a good point here, when you loook through all the selfrighteous BS..... Paintball is failing as a media sport, because our industry is failing in converting more random participants into equipment owners and real participants in the sport of paintball.
We are not presenting our sport to the people visiting fields every weekend, and as such there is a complete disconnect between tournament ball and rental ball.
You cannot blame PSP or NPPL for that... all they do, is make a little money catering to an audience that wants their product - and loves their product.
You CAN however blame an industry, which is so wholeheartedly focussed on perpetuating the idea that paintball is a wargame - not a sport.
Industry is not trying to educate field owners, or help them grow repeat business... they are just serving up the same tired old products and business models, that paintball have seen the last 25 years.
It starts with building rental fields that attract repeat business, it continues with creating entry level products and paint at a cost which is realistic for the core audience.... and it THEN finally results in a much greater transition rate into the sport.
People LIKE playing sports.... but still, so many years after paintball started, very few know paintball can be their sport - and that is our great downfall.
And yes, you might very well come back and say we should stop playing our sport, and go back into the woods to play Rambo.... but that's not what we like, so with all due respect, we will continue playing around with our inflatable girlfriends irrespective of how much it may irritate you ;)
I have a hard time following your post Nick.
Paintball is a war game.
You use guns.
Case closed.
To Add;
There is a difference in paintball.
Manufacturers cannot be involved in dictating game play format.
Paint manufacturers help to determine BPS caps in the PSP, as the APPA helps pre-determine scores (RaceTo system) where Sup Air is drawing the field and determining permanent dimensions not only within the National Leagues, but by effect, local fields.
They are working towards self-interest as any other business.
However, to do so without transparency or involvement of the active participants is simply wrong. A shadowy affair to say the least. It is wholly questionable when they claim to be representing players.
How this affects sport identity is a prudent matter.
Rawlings is not dictating the rate and usage of Baseballs in MLB, the speed and position of the ball.
Nike does not force patent and exclusive rights to property upon competing interests who then face bankruptcy if they do not comply, emboldened by league rules.
Do you see the difference?
The PSP and NPPL alike are more to blame for identity and the air ball dilemma- if you don’t purchase an air ball field, forget about retaining “hardcore” players. The marketing model depends on scheduled events for promotional material. This material is then used by the manufacturers usary of independent media artists. The few photographers who are employed by these companies face non-competitive pay rates and are rewarded with little more than cost.
Likewise, each league in different ways helps to support the manufacturer state in devious ways. The NPPL is less to blame, but as I said, having a watered down pb game is pretty pointless when the majority of viewers and players the world over prefer to be Rambo, not Oliver Lang.
It’s a monopoly, plain and simple.
The PBA is proof positive.
Nick, for many years the industry was pushing competitive paintball hard, much harder than any “wargame”. They only stopped doing so when it became apparent that it was bad business. You can’t blame an industry consisting of “for profit” businesses to chase profits.
I am a field owner. I do not promote the “sport” of paintball (I also do not promote wargames), yet close to half of my customers these days are what I would consider regular repeat customers. Competitive players are not the only repeat customers. As a matter of fact, I would guess that competitive paintballers are the minority of repeat customers, and that’s not because the non competitive repeat customers are unaware of or have not been exposed to competitive paintball.
Unfortunately a lot less people like to play sports these days than they used to. Participation in virtually all organized sports has been dropping for many years now. Competitive paintball is trying to buck that trend by growing the sport. It’s a tough sell in today’s society and today’s culture, especially with a sport that requires a big commitment in time and dollars.
First, a war game is not defined by the use of guns (or other weaponry) alone... by that logic, Biathlon and Fencing would be war games too - but they are not... they evolved from their original purpose into sports.
That you may prefer it to be a war game is blantantly obvious, but that does not make it so for a great deal of us in paintball.
And no, I do not believe the industry pushed the "sport" for many years.... all they did was make products and run ads.... and get involved with running events... all solely directed at the top end of the market.
In no other industry (at least not an intelligent one), do you see companies manufacture products, without making an effort to turn the broader part of the market towards their products.
Our industry has for many years been, and is still today, divided into "rec" and "sport", which is exactly the problem.
Companies should be actively helping grow the sport at field level, they should actively be in the business of growing their own customer base... but instead, they perpetuate the disconnect between fields and the sport and fight for the scraps from the few fields that run tournament style ball.
It's insane, shortsighted and completely lacking professionalism..... and probably born out of the fact, that still today, very few industry leaders have a real business background.... most just ended up, ass backwards, in a million dollar industry that always lacked professional business leaders.... and very few have made the effort to become better at their jobs.
m3s0h0rn7 (aka crazy anonymous)
How much input to the participants get in the running of the NFL, NASCAR, or ESPN?
Participants participate. They don't get to make the business decisions, other than voting with their wallets.
“And no, I do not believe the industry pushed the "sport" for many years.... all they did was make products and run ads.... and get involved with running events... all solely directed at the top end of the market.
In no other industry (at least not an intelligent one), do you see companies manufacture products, without making an effort to turn the broader part of the market towards their products.”
I’m not sure what else you wanted the industry to do. You certainly didn’t expect Tippmann and the like to abandon their very profitable business of supplying their customers what they demanded did you? If you did that was just wishful thinking. The industry has always made efforts to supply a broader market. Abandoning non-competitive type play for competitive type play would never happen. Product lines expanded and many, many fields were opened with tournament type only fields and many others added tournament type fields to their mix. When I went into the business, the buzz I heard everywhere was that the future in paintball lay in speedball. This was 2001. I fully intended to go into the speedball market (who in their right mind would want to miss out on a shifting trend?), as were most of the other fields in the area. My competitors were actively recruiting players from the “rec” business to join the fun on the speedball fields (the owners themselves were heavily involved in tournament play, so it was their passion). But in the end, after all their efforts, they could never attract enough participants to make it a viable business, it was always a sideline that they had to inject funds into (rather than take funds out of).
Now, had all us field owners abandoned their “rec” businesses completely and speedball were all that was offered, then sure, competitive paintball would have grown more, although most would just be playing “rec” paintball on speedball fields, but we would have also alienated a huge portion of the market that does not want to play on small fields, with extreme rates of fire, and large numbers of paintballs. What (intelligent) industry would abandon a large part of their customer base to try to convert them into customers of their other product line? We don’t see cheap fast food restaurants closing, in hopes that everyone will start eating at high end restaurants.
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If the “sport” of paintball wants to grow, then it needs to concentrate on its product. Competitive paintball, although using similar equipment as recreational paintball, is a totally different business, with a totally different product, and totally different demands of their customer base. Tournament type paintball needs to stop thinking about converting rec players, but needs to solely concentrate on creating something that enough people want to take part in, and more importantly, can afford to take part in. If you want to create “Demand”, which is what you are trying to do, then you need to “Supply” what people want at a price they feel is worth spending.
I agree that a lot of people want to play sports and I believe there is a much bigger demand for competitive style paintball than is currently being supplied to. I know many, many “rec” players that tried to get into the competitive paintball scene, only to be jaded, mostly by the cost (although that is not the only issue). The product that is being supplied at the cost demanded of the customer, can’t keep those customers, even though they dearly want to play the “sport”. I’m sure we all know many people like that.
The problem I see with the evolution of tournament paintball, is that field owners tried to build a product based on “volume”. However, the “volume” was paintballs, and not customers. They figured if they could get everyone shooting more paintballs, they would sell more paintballs and make the whole thing profitable. That whole concept has three very basic problems though. First, as you sell more, the price goes down, so the field owners end up making the same or maybe even less per customer. Second, supplying a product based on extreme rates of fire, eliminates a very large portion of the population. Third, those that are willing to take part, because of the high volumes of paint necessary, even if it’s relatively cheap, need to spend a lot of money compete. Now you’ve created a product that only a small percentage are willing to take part in due to the extremity level, is very costly for those that do want to take part, and is not profitable for those supplying the product. Three strikes....you’re out!
my question is who is this m3s0h0rn7 cat? seen him all over propb and the 'nation.
He seems like a dangerous and unstable character if you ask me.
I'm sure there's more to the story than that.
Reiner has the right of it. People want to play the game they want to play. It's not true that we need more fields to cater to speedball style play. They once did, it didn't work for them on a business level, and now they have reverted to rec play as thet's the product the majority of people want. Not because its all they've been exposed to though, they have likely been exposed to both styles and have chosen to play the more military one. This is the way of things in North America, and that's the lions share of the global market. Things may be different in Germany, Japan and in Denmark for all I know, but when you look at the market it's easy to see where the most dollars are being earned, and it's definitely not in the speedball sector.
Giving people the choice (again) is not going to change the market, no mater how convenient it would be if it did. Business is about supplying demand, as Reiner states, it's not about trying to change the demand to something else, especially when 'something else' is less profitable and more work.
I agree with the above points almost totally.
It's quite insane if you ask me.
Drew, chill out dude. Everything's not a conspiracy.
Justin-
You should know better than any the material withdraw threatened in as changing the working relationship between us at the direction of aforementioned parties. You should have drawn the line as I mentioned. I respect you, but you have made a poor decision.
The issue at hand is not the “end-all, be-all” of paintball sport.
By definition, the PSP and NPPL are both introductory products to the grand scheme of scenario and woods ball paintball.
Only in the wake of their failures have they become deemable importance. That should be a lesson to us all and one I've been emulating quite clearly for entertainment as well as self-expression upon the matter.
They are nothing more than that, although they like to think otherwise. “The Leading Edge” is dull.
Their media packages do little to entice or retain audience. In the same respect, there is no transition product or demand.
Instead of holding an ethical standard in reporting such events, they have gone to take it upon themselves leadership positions upon lies and deception, holding grudges, in introducing paintball sport by eliminating competitive parties, purposly fixing the market towards devaluing the representation of players through sponsorship rank packaging within leagues.
The evidence is clear-
Neither format involves the majority player ship of woods ball, scenario or speed ball formats.
Likewise, an artificial competition between factions has gone to destroy what little involvement was there to begin with.
If we wish to create a new standard in tournament paintball sport, now is the time. I am pushing YOU, the audience, to do just that.
Because this is just foolish. The few who are not of the "boy's club" in this audience agree.
The person most involved within the industry is accused as a heretic, another witch hunt under the “faith” of Pro Paintball because he rejected the offers presented to him in pursuit of higher learning. Indeed, my life has become a constant harrasment of childish men most concerned with the root cause of their penis size. I hear it all the time- pissing contests and all. What a shame this is deemed "professional" in a sport that is so beloved by many.
No self-sympathy here, I keep moving on as proud and as vulgar and as violent as I choose to be.
I know you guys are watching- you can go fuck yourself.
Is that not the product of the paintball player most definitely? What else do you subscribe to teach? Anything at all?
I assume it is, but reject the notion of label.
Great Job.
Even though it appears to be English I put that last comment in the Google translate and my computer crashed. :)
It's like those emails you get with random strings of words that make no sense so they can beat the spam detectors. I'm guessing some kind of self-medication, maybe out of a bottle.
Passive Sentences- 8%
Flesch Reading Ease- 62.1
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level- 8.3
[60.0–70.0: easily understood by 13- to 15-year-old students]
What's the problem?
The self-medication is not from a bottle brohan, it's prose and proper English.
To Conclude;
Anyone who has run the numbers on the PSP will see clearly deflationary rates of paint value compared to the inflated value service of the league towards players.
The PBAccess program is meant to justify that inflation.
The returns on a normal PSP event are staggeringly low concerning paint value. Exampled models show 20% retained value for every Dollar without sponsorship support in buying paint for players.
Likewise, the role of the sponsoring manufacturers manipulates the amounted value accrued to players and it is done so purposefully. Ownership of the league is pronounced as a service whereby players willingly assign the liable properties of self and identity to the league and it’s mutually contributing beneficiaries.
The truth of the matter is this information is purposefully withheld. In establishing such an LLC, Lane is legally unaffected as well as other mutually contributing benefactors.
Morally, should players face devalue of their property(s) by entering the league? I say no.
Likewise, there is no excusing the fact that this information exists but is withheld to the general consumer where it constitutes a major factor in value of play and instead, is shared within a grouped format of financially contributing regular parties. In a sense, one customer is valued over the other despite the fact the latter is providing equal if not majority amount. By justifying players as non-beneficiaries under the LLC, players bite the bullet and face the debt they are persuaded to thus create. In this means, manufacturers are the beneficiaries as they are able to bridge the gap and “clean up” the financial mess they themselves create. They are rewarded with value in this sense.
Bottom line- having the manufacturers introduced a “closed” market system of media where no product is sold outside of this grouped mutual beneficiaries and the rated value of players through marketing which is manipulated openly, is simply bad business. I question wholly if it is even legal given the circumstances.
Of course players support this model- because they are championed as celebrities in a horizontal system which laterally promotes all, but sells no product to the consumer, only the group “sponsorship” properties of which is recycled wholly and none given to the player in tangible terms outside of sponsorship support.
A vacuum is created where the reward is produced from said void.
A player for instance is rewarded having been the involving party in producing the deficit.
They are taken advantage of and done so openly, where the reality is masked.
In the same sense, no editorial consideration is given upon which games are most important in the means of raw broadcast. If every minute and every second of an overall broadcast are run, it becomes more difficult to cite the valued marketing advertisement.
When split and done so, its comparative value by means of existing broadcast is thereby diluted as well.
This isn’t jargon-
The National Tournament model fails to deliver on promises and advertising where it concerns media, the purpose of the format as well as withholding vital information towards investing clients and players. The product is the service of the PSP, which has yet to deliver on said advertising while at the same time siding with less invested participants.
The only question is when and where the manufacturers will drop what is otherwise a beneficial model to their means.
It's purpose is questionable, as good money is being burned away relentlessly. One must question as to why investors would side with this political correctness in paintball sport over the vast amount of profits proven through big-game scenario.
As was mentioned, these introductary leagues provide a gateway to other means of paintball. To have modeled it as a sport artifically in this way is simply foolish, albeit, carefully crafted.
See you the next time around! :)
Actually, I'm Done.
This is pathetic.
Players ask for the truth, but accept the lies. Why bother?
The Fantasy Sport. Have fun.
I really hope this is being written in elegant German and then just butchered through use of Google Translate.
Crazy anon:
I confess I am unable to comprehend what you mean to a large extent. But am I to understand that you have trouble accepting the premise of price discrimination? And are you suggesting that players are being coerced in some way into their contracts?
As for your other assertations, I have yet to see you post any data. None what so ever. Only a great amount of pompousness and questions being begged.
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